MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TOWN OF ELLICOTT ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS HELD AT THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 215 SOUTH WORK STREET, FALCONER, NY 14733 ON SEPTEMBER 7, 2005 AT 7:30 P.M.

 

PRESENT: Chairman Steve Hoglin, Dave Remington, John Merchant, Angelo Cimo, Patricia   

                     Martonis, Kathy Hedstrand, Rick Keefer, Attorney William Wright, Code

                     Enforcement Officer Randy Woodbury and Secretary Valerie Pierce.

ABSENT:   None

 

Chairman Hoglin called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M.  Secretary Pierce called the roll.

 

Motion made by John Merchant, seconded by Ang Cimo to approve the minutes of the July 25, 2005 meeting.

 

Carried.                      Ayes-7                         Noes-0                      Absent-0

 

Attorney Wright swore in everyone that would be testifying at this public hearing.

 

Chairman Hoglin opened the public hearing for Northgate Church for a sign variance at County Route 380 and NYS Route 60.

 

Jeff Ekstrom, representing the Northgate Church, requested a variance for two 49 SF signs for the Church. Mr. Ekstrom presented the design from Chautauqua Sign Company for the sign to the Board members 

 

Mr. Woodbury told the Board that The Town of Ellicott Planning Board had approved the site plan contingent on the variance approval for the two signs versus one sign. 

 

Attorney Wright stated that in a mercantile zone you are allowed to have one ground sign of 100 SF but due to the entrances being off two roads they would like a variance to have two signs that will each be 49 SF.  They will not exceed the total square footage allowed in the code but need a variance for the two signs. Mr. Wright told the Board that they were looking at the signed and approved site plan and the signs were noted on the plans but the approval was contingent on the Zoning Board’s approval of the sign variance. 

 

Discussion followed on:

 

1)      the granting of sign variances – the Board considers the amount of property that is available and the need for the signs

2)      the illumination of the signs – Mr. Ekstrom said the back of the letters of the sign will be illuminated

3)      there will not be an entrance from Route 60 during phase I of this project

4)      the signs will be put up during the time when the shell of the building will go up

5)      the church does own the property

6)      both signs will go in during phase I

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7)      the signs will satisfy the phase II requirements – the signage might be changed in phase III

8)      they will have only one driveway for the first phase

 

Attorney Wright reviewed the five criteria for area variances in section 267B of the Town Law.

 

Secretary Pierce stated that the neighbors were notified and there was no written response.  There were no neighbors present and Mr. Woodbury had not had any response from neighbors.

 

Pat Martonis asked if they had considered any other methods for the signage.  Mr. Ekstrom said they had considered one sign but being that Route 60 was such a main road and since they would eventually have a driveway on Route 60 they would like the two signs.  Because you cannot see the sign on Route 380 from Route 60 you would not know what the building was. 

 

Attorney Wright asked if having a sign on Route 60 without having an entry would potentially create a safety hazard. He suggested that the sign be put up at the time the driveway was put in. He said the Board is allowed to impose any reasonable conditions on the granting of the area variances and that would certainly be a reasonable condition.  Mr. Ekstrom stated that would be fine.  When asked by John Merchant how much land they have, Mr. Ekstrom stated they have 35 acres.

 

Attorney Wright explained that because there was no coordinated SEQR review and the Planning Board reviewed the long form environmental form at their last meeting and made the determination that this project would not have a significant adverse environmental impact, therefore made a negative declaration prior to taking any action, this Board can adopt the findings of the Planning Board or do another complete review and make their own determination.  The signs were included on the plan and were considered by the Planning Board in its review. Mr. Wright suggested that this Board adopt the findings of the Planning Board. 

 

Motion made by Pat Martonis, seconded by John Merchant to adopt the SEQR review of the Planning Board for the Northgate Church on County Route 380 and NYS Route 60. 

 

Carried.                      Ayes-7                         Noes-0                    Absent-0

 

Motion made by John Merchant, seconded by Dave Remington to approve the variance for a second sign versus the allowed one sign for the Northgate Church at County Route 380 and NYS Route 60 with the condition that the second sign would not go up until the driveway off Route 60 was in. Both signs will be 49 SF. The Code Enforcement Officer would oversee the conditions. 

 

Carried.                        Ayes-7                        Noes-0                      Absent-0

 

Chairman Hoglin opened the public hearing for Nicholas Ferreri (Tanglewood Manor) 560 Fairmount Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY for the renewal of the special use permit for Memory Garden.

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David Stapleton, Attorney for Nicholas Ferreri and Tanglewood Manor, requested the renewal of the special use permit.  The code requires the renewal of the special use permit every two years. 

 

Mr. Stapleton stated there were a couple of items that the neighbors were concerned with when the applicant came in last month.  The garbage pick up was a concern and also a stop sign at the entrance of the parking lot. He told the Board that both of those concerns have been addressed. A copy of the letter from the waste hauling company indicating they were going to change their time for the collection of the garbage was given to the Board and the stop sign has been installed. Memory Gardens has been up and running for some time and there have been no complaints.

 

Kathy Hedstrand asked if there were any conditions on the approval of this special use permit.  Mr. Woodbury stated that he read the minutes and there were no conditions on the approval. 

 

Attorney Stapleton said if the Board had it in its authority to waive the two-year renewal they would appreciate that consideration and asked to extent it out for a period of time.  They were told the two-year renewal was in case something changed for the business.

 

The neighbors were notified and the Town did not receive any written response.

 

Shawn Malay, 45 Gifford Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY, stated he did not see the stop sign up as of right now.  Brad Lawson stated the sign was up and Rick Keefer said he had seen the sign.

 

Motion made by Ang Cimo, seconded by Dave Remington, to approve the renewal of the special use permit for Memory Gardens for Nick Ferreri at 560 Fairmount Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY.

 

Carried.                            Ayes-7                            Noes-0                        Absent-0

 

Mr. Woodbury said the present policy is that the Town does not notify the applicant of the renewal but future policy will be to try to get them noted.

 

Chairman Hoglin reopened the public hearing for Nicholas Ferreri (Tanglewood Manor), 560 Fairmount Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY for a special use permit for senior housing with 24 units for independent living.

 

Attorney Stapleton again addressed the Board on behalf of Mr. Ferreri.  It was his understanding that the Board adjourned any determination on this request to enable the neighbors and Mr. Ferreri to meet and to discuss any concerns they had and also to allow the Board and the Planning Board to tour the grounds. It was his understanding there were Board members that did tour the back areas of the property. Mr. Ferreri did meet with 6 or 7 of the neighbors and a couple of councilmen from the Town Board.   The issues that were raised were the same issues raised at the meeting such as the location of the driveway and the lighting.

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Mr. Ferreri told the Board members as well as the neighbors that they would look into what they could possibly do to alter the location of the driveway from coming in on the north end of the property.  They have done that and Mr. Carroll is here to address the issue.  Mr. Stapleton said the expense of putting in that driveway is very high so they do not anticipate that can be done. They cannot move the driveway to the east side of the property. The lighting is extremely reduced compared even to the standards of minimum lighting. Twenty feet out from the light they will have less than 1/10 of a candle.

 

Mr. James Carroll, Asterhill Planning and Developing Services, reviewed:

 

1)      the lighting – he presented specifications on the lighting – there is low level lighting to get the residents into the building from their car and around the edges of the building where there would be pedestrian traffic – the other lighting  is to access the site and they will use a residential lamppost that they would probably propose be at a 15 foot height – it will be 20’ to 25’ off the road – they will be spaced 25’ apart and will be four to six lamps coming out of the driveway and then footlights for the paths – it will be enough to identify the entrance but will not spill over into the street – there are some light posts already there – there will be a sign on the lamppost

2)      the amount of traffic -  he reviewed the studies he presented to the Board from the Institute for Traffic Engineers, Federal Highway Authority guidelines and NYS DOT – they all support senior housing will not generate any more traffic than single family housing – a project like this will probably generate 40 % less traffic than a single family sub-division

3)      the housing will be for 55 years and over or disabled – Mr. Ferreri said if someone comes that is under 55 and they need a  handicapped facility they would be able to come into this  facility

 

This project is meant to conpliment Tanglewood Manor. They will not be renting to families with children.  Mr. Ferreri said his commitment if for 24 units and he would not build any more.   It is geared to people who have sold their homes want to “age in place” with no fees. 

 

Mr. Carroll said he did a survey in the County for senior housing for another project. The County well serves the low housing income seniors (60% or less of the average medium income) and also the high end  (120% of the AMI).  There is a population in the County and the State where people with 70% or 80 % of the AMI are totally being overlooked and are having to spent 50 % of there income on housing. This project addresses that population that has been totally missed.

 

Ang Cimo asked Mr. Ferreri what his target rent would be.  Mr. Ferreri said he cannot say but they will be competitive and affordable. Mr. Ferreri said that he thinks the cost of this project will be approximately $1.6 million but that does depend on what they get into when they construct it. He stated that they have always done everything high level but affordable.

 

Pat Martonis asked if the site plans have been reviewed and approved.  Attorney Wright told the Board they have been in front of the Planning Board for a sketch plan because there is no reason to take it in

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front of the Planning Board for a full presentation prior to it having approval from  the Zoning Board. It would be a waste of their money to complete their plans and take it to the Planning Board.  Rick Keefer asked if the neighbors could address issues at the Planning Board.  Attorney Wright said the issues are very much the same. The Planning Board will look for other things as well as the protection of the neighborhood, buffers, lighting and traffic.

 

John Merchant said that he reviewed the items the Board asked for at the last meeting such as the tree buffer and the fence around the pond but did not see them on the plans.  Mr. Carroll said they would present those to the Planning Board.  Attorney Wright asked why they did not present those to the Zoning Board since they had to demonstrate this project does not alter the character of the neighborhood and aesthetics are something this Board needs to consider.  Mr. Carroll said they had a dense tree buffer and they agreed that if it were requested they would add additional evergreen buffers into the heave mass of plantings as a condition of the approval. Mr. Carroll stated the plans were not to scale.

 

Attorney Wright asked how much of the property to the west of the driveway they own and control.  Mr. Carroll said right now they have 41 feet from the corner of the building to the north of the easterly property line.  They have 20 feet from the residential lots. There is also a County right-of-way for a sewer easement.

 

Mr. Carroll said that when they explored an alternative entrance and the cost would be 10 times more. The preliminary estimate of the cost for the alternative driveway would have been $220,000 to $250,000 compared to the $20,000 to $25,000 for the one shown on the plans. They have soils that are highly unstable and would have to put in a bridge. 

 

Kathy Hedstrand said she would have a safety issue with putting the alternative driveway through that area because of the children in the area and asked if they had any other options. Mr. Carroll said since Mr. Ferreri did not own the other lots they did not have any.

 

Rick Keefer asked if they could have the cost of the alternative driveway in writing for the record. Pat Martonis asked about the traffic studies.  They were presented to the Board at the last ZBA meeting.  Mr. Carroll said he would also provide the letter from a traffic engineer to the Town.

 

John Merchant said they he expected to see the tree buffers and the fences and gates on the plans.  Mr. Ferreri said they will certainly do that and would give the Board contingencies on what they want. They need the ZBA approval before they go to the next level. 

 

Kathy Hedstrand asked, since the traffic study was based on specific senior housing and traffic is big issue for the residents in the area, if Mr. Ferreri will have an established application process for the housing.  Mr. Ferreri stated his goal is 55 years and over but if someone comes in that is not 55 years old and needs handicapped accessibility they will consider them.  If they are not handicapped they will have to be 55 years or older. 

 

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Attorney Wright reviewed section 146-9 of the code. It stated apartments; multiple dwellings and group houses are allowed in residential zoning as a special permit use.  Section 146-64 C list the criteria to be considered to grant a special use permit. 

 

Secretary Pierce stated neighbors were notified and no written responses were received by the Town Clerk’s office.

 

Lee John, Merlin Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY, stated that he was disappointed they were unable to move the driveway from Gifford.  He had concerns that there was nothing showing many aspects of the planning.  There were no buffers shown and the plan is not to scale.  He has no issues with the existing business and the concept but this is “plopping” a business into the middle a residential neighborhood.  Mr. John said he was concerned with the fact that Mr. Ferreri said anyone could live in the residential housing, the traffic, no sidewalks or curbs and the safety issues.

 

Brian Jeffrey, Gifford Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY, showed where his house was located and the direction he thought the traffic would go, which would increase the traffic on both Gifford and Merlin Avenues.

 

Shawn Malay, Gifford Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY, told the Board he had concerns about the additional traffic, maintaining the integrity of the residential neighborhood, the property values and the buffers.

 

Pat Martonis asked if any of the neighbors had asked a realtor how this would affect the property values.  She has concerns with lack of documentation on both sides and agrees with John that she expected to see the requested items shown on the plans.  Rick Keefer said he read about a court case that determined that they did not necessarily need a traffic study and could based their decision on the neighbors comments but he felt that it would help to have the documentation. 

 

There was discussion on the traffic light the NYS DOT would be putting on Warwick.  The neighbors did not feel that is where is should go. Mr. Ferreri stated that was a DOT decision and they were the experts.  Mr. Ferreri said that decisions should be based on studies done by experts.

 

Mr. Malay said that the Dot did not have prior knowledge that the community was going to double when they made their decision to put the traffic light on Warwick. Mr. Ferreri said they had  not presented  the additional developments in the area.

 

Pat Martonis said that she was looking at what the neighbor’s issues were. They would like is to see the driveway moved, to see specifications, they had concerns with no sidewalks and curbs (which create a safety hazard), the traffic, the number of units, the property values and the trees not mature for the buffer zone. 

 

 

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Mr. Malay asked, because the project borders the Village of Celoron, if there are special requirement that need to be met.  Attorney Wright stated that the Chautauqua County Planning Board would review and offer input. They do not have approval authority but the Planning Board cannot act until they have that input.

 

Mr. Lee told the Board that the drawing was the same as the Board saw before and there in no indication of the changes. Because Mr. Ferreri stated at the neighborhood meeting that anyone could live there it changes the whole scope of the project. He also asked about the drainage that was not shown on the plan. 

 

Mr. Malay placed on record a letter from Richard Slagle, Merlin Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY stating his opposition to this project (see file “Tanglewood Manor zoning variance for senior housing”).

 

Connie Kennedy, Merlin Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY, stated they have lived in the neighborhood over 28 years.  She said that the project will be beautiful but why not take the project somewhere by itself.  They have received two letters from Mr. Lawson asking to purchase their property but did feel the offer what the property was worth. The second letter said that Mr. Ferreri had acquired six properties when he had actually only acquired two.

 

Don Ellis, Gifford Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY, stated he has lived in the neighborhood for 57 years.  He now has two grandchildren living there and they will walk the street everyday so he had concerns about the safety. He works for an independent living center and works with elderly and handicapped people everyday. They do have a lot of services and have a lot of transportation in and out everyday.  He is concerned with the additional traffic. He stated there is a need for the facility and handicapped apartments but those people are generally on Medicaid or Medicare and do not have a lot for the rent. He also had concerns about the buffers. 

 

Mr. Lee read a portion of Mr. Slagle’s letter.  Pat Martonis asked if the neighbors would feel more secure if the statement was made that it was going to be senior citizen housing and for seniors over the age of “such and such”.  The neighbors said they would not because they have problems with the driveway and the doubling of the residents in the area and they stated the problem has become “the project”.

 

Kathy Hedstand asked how many community members are now within the two streets.  Mr. Malay told her there were 35 households and that he thought 95% of the households signed the petition (see file “Tanglewood Manor zoning variance for senior housing”).  Kathy and Pat reviewed the petition signed by 26 people with 18 different addresses on the petition.

 

The Board recessed at 9:25PM. 

 

The Board reconvened at 9:35 PM.

 

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Mr. Stapleton asked the Board to refocused their attention on the facts, as they perceive them to be.  They are dealing with a 24 unit senior housing project that will be handicapped accessible.  The unit will be 1 and 2 units with approximately 30 people living there and will not double the population of the neighborhood because it will not be equivalent to 24 single family homes with two to five people.  The statistics used nationally indicate at the most they will end up with approximately 18 cars within the parking lot permanently.  It is highly offensive to say that Mr. Ferreri has been lying to anybody because everything has been very up front during this entire transaction. He has met with the neighbors. There have been many discussions about the purchase of property and Mr. Ferreri has offered the assessed value or higher to each of the property owners and he did have six properties under contract.  If they feel that their property is under assessed they should contact the proper taxing authority.  They have not heard of anyone listing their property with anyone at a specific dollar amount.

 

Attorney Wright said that the Board’s consideration is under the section of code that was read and the determination that this project will not alter the essential character of the neighborhood.  The purchasing or non-purchasing of property is irrelevant to the determination.

 

Mr. Carroll reviewed the number of residents and the number of cars based on the studies.  The driveway has a 20’ to 25’ buffer on either side of the driveway.  Attorney Wright asked if there would be occupational limits on the apartments and if three people could occupy them or would it be limited to two.  Mr. Ferreri said it was his intention that it would be one or two people in the apartments. Restrictions can be placed in the lease. 

 

Mr. Lee stated again it was stated that anyone can live in these apartments and that will in fact change the neighborhood. 

 

Motion made by Rick Keefer, seconded by Dave Remington to table this application because the SEQR encompasses both this project and the next project for area setbacks variances for the day care facility and cannot be done without environmental review and until they look at the other project.

 

Mr. Stapleton asked Mr. Wright to explain what the SEQR review involves and when and how that will happen.  Attorney Wright asked the Board to move on the motion.

 

Carried.                                 Ayes-7                  Noes-0                   Absent-0

 

Attorney Wright explained that the long form EAF was prepared and given to the Town that encompasses the entire site, which include the 24 unit apartment building and the day car facility.  The environmental cannot be determined or reviewed separate from one another.  If they want to separate the projects they would need to have the EAF redone. 

 

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Chairman Hoglin opened the public hearing for Nicholas Ferreri (Tanglewood Manor), 14 Merlin Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY for area variances for setbacks for a parking lot and building setbacks for a day care facility.

 

Attorney Wright explained the applicant could do independent SEQR filings for the two projects but that would violate the SEQR segmentation law.  The Board needs to do SEQR all encompassing.  Before they can review the SEQR the applicant needs to make the presentation of the project on the west side of the street. 

 

Mr. Stapleton presented plans for the day care center.  Mr. Carroll reviewed the plans with the Board.  He said they had presented a sketch plan to the Planning Board.  The Planning Board suggested they modify their plans or they would have to come before the Zoning Board for setback variances. Mr. Carroll explained the variance they were applying for.  It was determined that Merlin was the back of the proposed building at the Planning Board meeting. Discussion followed.

 

Attorney Wright reviewed the six variances that have been identified with his conversations with Attorney Stapleton.

 

1)      for the front parking lot which is the three spaces toward Gifford  the required setback is 30 feet and they are requesting a variance to 14’ 11”

2)      on the north side of that parking lot the requirement is 25 feet and they are looking for a variance to put it right on the property line for 0 setback

3)      on the building there is a 25 foot requirement and  they are requesting 0 setback

4)      on the west parking lot (on the north side of the seven car parking lot) there is a 25 foot requirement and they are looking to take that to 0

5)      on the west side of that parking lot there is a 25 foot setback requirement and they are asking to take that to 11 feet

6)      on the south side of the seven car parking lot there is a  25 foot requirement and they are asking to take that to 20’ 2”

The applicant withdrew the sidewalk crossing to the residential lot, which would have been a use variance issue, and take it around to the other side of the property. There would be 6 individual lot line set back variances and no use variance.

 

The other issue Mr. Wright identified was under 146-24 of the code. There is a 20-foot vegetative buffer requirement between the neighborhood business development and residential property.  He interprets that it would have to be no the neighborhood business zone and he did not see that in the plan.  Mr. Wright said the Board could treat the 20 foot required vegetative buffer as an additional area variance. 

 

Attorney Stapleton stated in reality they would end up with a buffer of 40 feet on property owned by Mr. Ferreri and there is an additional setback of 5 feet. If anyone were to build on the next residential lot there would be 45 feet of buffer instead of the 25 feet required. They would guarantee as a condition there would be no building on that lot and they would put up a 20-foot buffer of trees. 

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John Armstrong, Merlin Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY, said he was informed when he was before the Zoning Board several years ago that the Zoning Board’s main purpose was to keep the character of the neighborhood. In his personal experience with Tanglewood Manor he finds them to be positively exemplary in their actions and they do a wonderful job and does not have anything against the day care center for senior citizens.  He has been in the neighborhood for many years and there is a lot of commercial activity on Fairmount Avenue, however, Gifford and Merlin Avenues are residential neighborhoods.  They are changing the character of the neighborhood and he feels there are other options that could be addressed.  As for the specific area variance for his property line he request the Board deny the application and keep the nature of this neighborhood as a residential neighborhood. 

 

Rick Keefer asked Mr. Armstrong if they keep the character of the building residential would he be in favor of the approval. Mr. Armstrong said creating a day care center changes the nature of the neighborhood because it is a commercial building not a residential home. Rick asked if it were the activity instead of the aesthetics of the neighborhood that Mr. Armstrong objected to Mr. Armstrong stated it was the changing of the nature of the neighborhood and the charter of the Board is to decide if this will cause an undesirable change to the neighborhood.  

 

Mike Johnson, Merlin Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY was sworn in.  He had concerns with the safety of his children, the business atmosphere, no buffers and the changing of the nature of the neighborhood.  He has lived in the area for two years and the neighborhood has been a quite residential neighborhood.  He purchased his home because it was residential and probably would not have purchased the home if the day care facility were there.

 

Shawn Malay, Gifford Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY, stated that currently the property boundary has a 12-foot fence that keeps the commercial side of Fairmount Avenue on the commercially zoned side of the residents.  If the Board grants the variances they would decrease the size of the neighborhood and decrease  the value of the life style in the neighborhood.  He asked the Board maintain the codes as they are written and not allow the additional variances. 

 

Attorney Stapleton addressed the Board and gave the Board some more facts about the property.  The building is approximately 3850 SF and will look much like a residence.  There will be parking for 10 vehicles, three on Gifford and seven on Merlin.  There will be up to 20 people that will come into the day care property with two or three staff members.  There will be one bus in the morning and one bus in the evening.  The hours of operation will be limited to 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM so it will be much quieter than a residential area.  This proposal has nothing in terms of usage of a residential area and there is no building in a residential area.  There is a 40-foot buffer for the two lots that Mr. Ferreri owns and will not build on. He will guarantee that there will be no selling of that property or conveyances of that property independent of the other property. Under the current zoning there could be a house and building within 30 feet of each other. The zoning provides for a setback of 30 feet between the two areas and they are giving 45 feet. Mr. Ferreri will put up whatever trees they want on the residential area so all they will see is trees.

 

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Mr. Stapleton requested the Board grant the areas variances because all the activity is within the neighborhood business district and this is a use by right in that district.

 

Ang Cimo asked if the parking will be adequate and Mr. Ferreri said it would because they would utilize parking from areas they now have at Tanglewood Manor that is right across the street. Mr. Ferreri said there might be two times that the bus comes and goes in the morning and evening.

 

Rick said that the lights were a concern and the code states the facilities should have their lights off ½ hour after the close of business. Mr. Ferreri stated his building will look like a house but he did not have a drawing. 

 

Steve Hoglin made a motion, seconded by Pat Martonis that the Board enter into executive session at 10:25 PM.

 

Carried.                          Ayes-7                          Noes-0                          Absent-0

 

The Board reconvened at 10:55 PM.

 

The neighbors had no other comments at this time.

 

Attorney Wright reviewed the criteria for the area variances noting:

1)  the neighbors argued that the project would alter the character of the neighborhood and the 

                  applicant stated it would not

2)      the applicant stated that the variances are the minimum variances that can be requested to

                  get this on the property, the applicant has not looked at any other property,

3)      the substantially of an area variance is determined on a per variance bases

4)      if the proposed action will have an adverse effect on the impact of physical or 

      environmental conditions in the neighborhood is a safety criteria

5)      if the alleged difficulty is self-created which is relevant to the decision but not necessarily

                  preclude the granting of an area variance 

 

Attorney Wright asked if they had a drawing for the day care building. They just have a footprint.  Brad Lawson said the description for the building is a one story, residential in type with vinyl siding, residential windows and doors, a higher peaked roof in the center portion of the building with a couple dormers and other roofs coming off it.  Mr. Ferreri said the interior would be like a neighborhood with a country kitchen similar to Memory Gardens.

 

Mike Johnson told the Board this building may look residential but there is no home in the area with over 2000 SF or 10 parking spots.

 

Motion made by Dave Remington, seconded by Pat Martonis to table to table this application due to the fact they do not have enough information to make a decision. 

Carried.                   Ayes-7                                Noes-0                         Absent-0

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John Merchant said that he would like to see an actual plan and a drawing of the building.  He does feel that the variances are excessive and asked if they could revisit the site plan and look at the variances they requested.  John said this is the first time the Board has seen the plan for the day care facility. He said another issue is the need for the ten parking spaces.

 

Mr. Ferreri said he would have to look at the cost of the project. They know they have a community that does not want them to expand in the senior housing area. He owns all of the 11 acres and right now he can’t use the acres. He is paying taxes and will have to rethink that to.

 

Attorney Stapleton asked if they were looking for a picture or architectural drawings. Mr. Stapleton said for purposes of the record he would like it to reflect that these are split lots and that traditionally when you have zoning lines that go through properties that divide properties into different zoning district the courts have allowed the setbacks.  Some zoning ordinances and some case laws have built in exemptions and if not the variances are granted. 

 

Rick Keefer asked if the Board members could get some of the information on those cases.  Mr. Stapleton said that Attorney Wright should review that not the Board but Mr. Woodbury could give the Board what they need.

 

Mr. Armstrong asked what the minimum square footage is to build on in the Town of Ellicott. Randy said that would depend on the setbacks.  Mr. Armstrong said then they could build on that lot.

 

Attorney Wright asked the Board what additional information they would like to see.  They would like a rendition of the building, the adjoining lots shown and the buffer zone to scale for the day car center.   For the senior housing they would like to see tree buffers, fences around the pond, lighting, property lines and the actual driveway. Pat said she would like to see specific information and maybe the neighbors should go to a realtor and get some facts to show if this could decrease the value of their property.  The applicant will also go a realtor. Pat asked if the applicant could look for an alternative for the driveway. 

 

Mr. Ferreri said that he will not bring the residential housing project in again for awhile but will bring the day care facility back next month.  Ang asked if they have looked at the other property for the day care facility and Mr. Ferreri said if he did that he would be looking at a use variance because it would be in a residential zone.  

 

Attorney Wright told the applicant they need to revise the EAF if they are going to revise the project. 

 

Motion made by Rick Keefer, seconded by Pat Martonis to adjourn the meeting at 11:25 PM.

 

Carried.                          Ayes-7                           Noes-0                       Absent-0

 

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Valerie Pierce, Secretary